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Q&A with WallachBeth


Published
March 21, 2024
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Dana Martin

Managing Director, WallachBeth

This week we sit down with Dana Martin at WallachBeth to discuss the company’s support of the active ETF market.


WallachBeth is a leading provider of institutional execution services to institutions including ETF issuers and their clients. What is the most common way you engage with ETF issuers and how has your business evolved over the last decade?

WallachBeth is fortunate to have multi-dimensional relationships with issuers, executing transactions within ETFs and of ETFs – that is, we trade the underlying components (primarily equities, options, ETFs) and we also facilitate execution of the ETFs themselves on behalf of our clients.

On the ETF side, WallachBeth’s core business is block execution for ETF consumers such as wealth management firms, ETF strategists and asset owners such as insurers or banks. It’s a point of pride that issuers often refer us to their clients and help expand our reach in terms of that trading activity. We work to earn those referrals by cultivating strong relationships with capital markets and trading teams, and they trust that we understand the product and that execution can be a significant component of their client’s return. The work we do trading within the funds for issuers aligns and informs the work we do trading the ETFs, and vice-versa.

For those that are less familiar, how is your role as an agency-only trading firm different from that of a registered market maker (RMM) or lead market maker (LMM)?

This is a great question – we’re often talked about as a market-making firm. In fact, we were flattered one year to win an industry recognition, “ETF Market-Maker of the Year.” Ironically though, we’re not actually a market-maker. So, I want to unpack that distinction.

A “market” exists where there is a buyer and a seller for a given asset – so market-making literally means ensuring that a market participant can find the other side of a trade. An LMM publicizes a two-sided quote “on screen” for an ETF so market participants know the price at which they could buy or sell that ETF. But as an agency-only trading firm, WallachBeth is not taking the other side of our clients’ trades, or making a market for the asset they are buying or selling. We are not set up to take the other side or provide principal liquidity; instead, we intermediate and provide access to liquidity. Instead of quoting and providing a market like a market-maker does, on behalf of our clients we navigate the market that is being offered. We aggregate liquidity in the context of specific transactions – our job is to evaluate the markets offered across venues, counterparties and trade strategies in order to structure execution based on the clients’ goals.

There is no liquidity without market-making, simply put, and it’s a complex, risk-driven activity that no two market-making firms approach in the exact same way. Thus, it’s very important for WallachBeth to maintain strong, collaborative relationships with the market-makers so we understand which firms are most competitive, engaged and efficient in certain market areas. We are here to help our clients travel on a fast-moving two-way street, and appreciating and understanding market-making is the essence of how we get good, consistent results for our clients.

As you are assessing trading and business opportunities with new ETF sponsors, what criteria do you most often look to? Do these criteria vary by asset class and/or by management style (active vs. passive)?

One gratifying part of our role and reputation is that clients often approach us in the early innings of product development to talk about everything from operational nuances to sales strategy. It’s interesting and great to say that at this stage in the ETF game, there really isn’t a typical profile of an ETF issuer. We work with issuers of all sizes with very unique stories and investment emphasis. That variety has accelerated over the last few years with traditional active managers getting in the game and as the market sees massive demand for solution-oriented products (i.e., the derivative ETF boom).

We try to get managers thinking about whether their investment strategy can be maintained in a wrapper that is being continuously priced/ traded/ created/ redeemed, as ETFs are. Regulatory and market structure progress has occurred really quickly in order to support a big variety of approaches and underlying exposure, but that said – just because something is technically doable in an ETF, that doesn’t mean it can be done efficiently in an ETF.

The active ETF market has grown meaningfully over the last five years. How has WallachBeth approached the change and are there any areas of the market that you are particularly focused on?

The ETF specialization at WallachBeth was established in 2008, very directly in response to the evolving needs in ETF execution after the products first moved to electronic venues. Our strategic plan as a business is simply to evolve with the market and our clients, so whether it’s technology, personnel or operations, our approach is a function of what issuers and their clients need. For example, we have spent a lot of time in the last couple of years helping issuers evaluate the very specific trade flow and clearing infrastructure that enables derivative-based ETFs.

As a trading firm, what guidance would you provide sponsors as they consider expanding their product offer to include actively managed ETFs?

There are so many factors that go into whether investment IP can be successfully commercialized as an ETF but distribution expectations have been reframed in a way that makes the “success” definition much more attainable for traditional managers. A few years ago, most prospective issuers were looking at ETFs as a bet on new distribution channels (e.g., Robinhood retail), hoping to go “viral” in the way that Cathie Wood’s ARK lineup did. Unfortunately, those stories are rare and in those retail segments it’s tough to test demand for the types of strategies run by traditional active managers.

Today though, most are now looking at ETFs as a way to deepen reach within existing distribution or extend into related channels. For example, there may be demand for an ETF on a wirehouse platform where the manager is successfully selling their mutual fund or SMA. As another example, a consultant who has approved a strategy in SMA form for their institutional clients may be interested in an ETF for their private wealth clients. Situations like that have managers reconsidering the risk/reward outlook for launching ETFs in a positive way. It used to be, “should we do an ETF? If we do an ETF, will anybody care?” but now it’s “we need to do an ETF – can you help us think through it?”

Active ETF Stat Pack


Firms
# of Issuers268
# of New Issuers 202311
ProductsAssets
# of ETFs1374AUM ($B)$606.51
# of New Launches 2024833 Yr AUM CAGR43%
Avg. ER0.42%5 Yr AUM CAGR52%
Cash FlowTrading
YTD Cash Flow ($B)$56.48YTD ADV (Shares)222,968,383
3 Yr Cash Flow$325.52YTD ADV ($)$7.02 B
5 Yr Cash Flow$440.34YTD Avg. Spread (bps)*25.25

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 3/15/2024

*Simple average

Active, Semi-Transparent ETFs


TickerInceptionNameAUMYTD Flows30 Day Median Spread (bps)ADV (shares)StructureLMMExpense Ratio
VNSE9/17/20Natixis Vaughan Nelson Select ETF$34,186,665-$686,22115.503,106NYSE AMSCitadel0.80%
VNMC9/17/20Natixis Vaughan Nelson Mid Cap ETF$4,273,201$357,26719.41202NYSE AMSCitadel0.85%
ESGA7/15/20American Century Sustainable Equity ETF$194,342,700$1,260,76112.256,967NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
MID.ETF7/15/20American Century Mid Cap Growth Impact ETF$66,508,244$4,990,30013.484,112NYSE AMSCitadel0.45%
ESGY7/1/21American Century Sustainable Growth ETF$15,220,980$945,22810.122,019NYSE AMSCitadel0.39%
NDVG8/5/21Nuveen Dividend Growth ETF$10,863,274-$2,514,1888.322,540NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
NSCS8/5/21Nuveen Small Cap Select ETF$6,696,196$011.16148NYSE AMSCitadel0.86%
NWLG8/5/21Nuveen Winslow Large-Cap Growth ESG ETF$7,323,725$09.02296NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
SAEF11/16/21Schwab Ariel ESG ETF$21,529,950$1,496,95034.672,978NYSE AMSFlow Traders0.59%
IWLG6/23/22IQ Winslow Large Cap Growth ETF$27,944,600$1,189,77013.83893NYSE AMSCitadel0.60%
IWFG6/23/22IQ Winslow Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$9,078,960$391,77015.39141NYSE AMSCitadel0.65%
TSME10/5/22Thrivent Small-Mid Cap ESG ETF$158,325,241-$11,865,7329.5472,699NYSE AMSRBC0.65%
JPSV3/8/23JPMorgan Active Small Cap Value ETF$15,005,200$796,1007.52665NYSE AMSCitadel0.74%
LSGR6/29/23Natixis Loomis Sayles Focused Growth ETF$143,155,701$135,087,0068.4982,168NYSE AMSCitadel0.59%
SGLC3/31/23SGI U.S. Large Cap Core ETF$83,100,353-$28,014,03618.9831,634NYSE AMSGTS0.85%
FDG4/2/20American Century Focused Dynamic Growth ETF$209,253,941-$1,226,2918.9511,482NYSE AMSCitadel0.45%
FLV4/2/20American Century Focused Large Cap Value ETF$223,702,493$4,346,33010.276,362NYSE AMSCitadel0.42%
FBCG6/4/20Fidelity Blue Chip Growth ETF$1,381,485,821$201,211,0059.64327,771Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FBCV6/4/20Fidelity Blue Chip Value ETF$122,632,923-$2,226,43515.8315,713Fidelity ProxyGTS0.59%
FMIL6/4/20Fidelity New Millennium ETF$241,903,402$43,578,00110.2549,686Fidelity ProxyGTS0.38%
FGRO2/4/21Fidelity Growth Opportunities ETF$281,822,789$14,963,51911.1361,271Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.38%
FMAG2/4/21Fidelity Magellan ETF$78,742,277$16,109,2229.0336,229Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FPRO2/4/21Fidelity Real Estate Investment ETF$13,076,401-$519,73513.323,001Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
FSMO2/4/21Fidelity Small/Mid-Cap Opportunities ETF$51,955,566$6,069,8598.1815,246Fidelity ProxyRBC0.43%
FSST6/17/21Fidelity Sustainability U.S. Equity ETF$12,964,465$604,8289.692,086Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
FDWM6/17/21Fidelity Women's Leadership ETF$3,812,750$012.01806Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
TCHP8/5/20T. Rowe Price Blue Chip Growth ETF$544,412,601$13,868,6886.5198,927T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.57%
TDVG8/5/20T. Rowe Price Dividend Growth ETF$395,020,962$24,201,3465.1662,363T Rowe ProxyRBC0.50%
TEQI8/5/20T. Rowe Price Equity Income ETF$151,282,802$4,079,6469.9311,105T Rowe ProxyVirtu0.54%
TGRW8/5/20T. Rowe Price Growth Stock ETF$72,170,390$4,940,0246.6210,831T Rowe ProxyRBC0.52%
TSPA6/8/21T. Rowe Price U.S. Equity Research ETF$164,422,723$58,873,4155.9345,911T Rowe ProxyRBC0.34%
IVRA12/22/20Invesco Real Assets ESG ETF$4,700,514$1,522,12047.463,885Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.59%
LOPP2/1/21
Gabelli Love Our Planet & People ETF
$11,739,660$031.96366ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
GGRW2/16/21Gabelli Growth Innovators ETF$4,243,880$334,10027.635,643ActiveSharesGTS0.90%
GAST1/5/22Gabelli Asset ETF$4,818,590$032.2633ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
GABF5/11/22Gabelli Financial Services Opportunities ETF$12,153,660$2,312,09532.654,584ActiveSharesGTS0.04%
GCAD1/3/23
Gabelli Commercial Aerospace & Defense ETF
$4,829,220$274,61030.63408ActiveSharesGTS0.00%
FRTY3/1/21Alger Mid Cap 40 ETF$32,752,875$394,50061.2810,405ActiveSharesVirtu1.19%
ATFV5/4/21Alger 35 ETF$16,368,000$1,294,87530.728,099ActiveSharesVirtu1.83%
AWEG3/7/23Alger Weatherbie Enduring Growth ETF$4,510,000$064.6083ActiveSharesVirtu1.25%
CLIA5/9/23Veridien Climate Action ETF$22,846,522$567,11765.413,356ActiveSharesGTS0.85%
REIT2/26/21ALPS Active REIT ETF$23,584,851$4,597,10029.377,574Blue TractorGTS0.68%
STNC3/16/21Hennessy Stance ESG Large Cap ETF$119,676,050$56,603,32820.648,664Blue TractorGTS0.85%
DYTA3/30/23SGI Dynamic Tactical ETF$74,572,137-$37,429,93120.1647,807Blue TractorGTS0.95%
PFUT5/26/21Putnam Sustainable Future ETF$244,821,289$15,627,99117.4129,788Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.64%
PLDR5/26/21Putnam Sustainable Leaders ETF$528,752,244$50,215,6069.9273,116Fidelity ProxyRBC0.59%
PGRO5/26/21Putnam Focused Large Cap Growth ETF$59,136,021$7,212,7089.3214,105Fidelity ProxyRBC0.56%
PVAL5/26/21Putnam Focused Large Cap Value ETF$332,380,006$48,632,0947.5695,420Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.56%
HFGO11/9/21Hartford Large Cap Growth ETF$116,378,168-$418,14818.681,447Fidelity ProxyCitadel0.60%
SEMI3/30/22Columbia Seligman Semiconductor and Technology ETF$35,106,190$1,805,15028.806,215Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.75%
CAPE4/5/22DoubleLine Shiller CAPE U.S. Equities ETF$382,254,600-$86,130,80014.0852,004ActiveSharesCitadel0.65%
FMCX4/25/22FMC Excelsior Focus Equity ETF$90,778,800$441,80025.35714ActiveSharesGTS0.70%
BYRE5/19/22Principal Real Estate Active Opportunities ETF$9,274,663$466,39226.36765Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.65%
JHAC11/2/23John Hancock Fundamental All Cap Core ETF$2,964,784$419,79110.891,163Fidelity ProxyVirtu0.72%
 
Total/Average$6,884,860,017$561,050,89618.951,344,996
 
0.62%

Source: Factset & NYSE Internal Database and Consolidated Tape Statistics as of 1/24/2024

*Simple average

Recent Active ETF Launches


TickerNameIssuerLaunch DateAsset ClassAUM
FEBPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - FebruaryPGIM2/1/24Equity$3,610,047
PBFBPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - FebruaryPGIM2/1/24Equity$3,583,034
IFEBInnovator International Developed Power Buffer ETF FebruaryInnovator2/1/24Equity$13,531,823
FLJJAllianzIM U.S. Equity 6 Month Floor5 Jan/Jul ETFAllianz Investment Management2/1/24Equity$23,238,000
SIXFAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap 6 Month Buffer10 Feb/Aug ETFAllianz Investment Management2/1/24Equity$59,682,750
DCMTDoubleLine Commodity Strategy ETFDoubleLine2/1/24Commodities$20,413,626
KPROKraneShares 100% KWEB Defined Outcome January 2026 ETFKraneShares2/7/24Equity$2,520,361
KBUFKraneShares 90% KWEB Defined Outcome January 2026 ETFKraneShares2/7/24Equity$2,559,604
EVLNEaton Vance Floating-Rate ETFMorgan Stanley2/7/24Fixed Income$63,460,152
MGNRAmerican Beacon GLG Natural Resources ETFAmerican Beacon2/6/24Equity$30,394,040
CANQ
Calamos Alternative Nasdaq & Bond ETF
Calamos2/13/24Asset Allocation$1,250,385
SFEBFT Vest U.S. Small Cap Moderate Buffer ETF - FebruaryFirst Trust2/20/24Equity$36,833,540
XFEB
FT Vest U.S. Equity Enhance & Moderate Buffer ETF - February
First Trust2/20/24Equity$30,986,938
KNOWFundamentals First ETFMason Capital2/22/24Asset Allocation$1,537,995
AOHYAngel Oak High Yield Opportunities ETFAngel Oak2/20/24Fixed Income$73,994,613
MBSAngel Oak Mortgage-Backed Securities ETFAngel Oak2/20/24Fixed Income$31,590,786
MSTYYieldMax MSTR Option Income Strategy ETFYieldMax2/22/24Equity$31,658,750
FFLVFidelity Fundamental Large Cap Value ETFFidelity2/26/24Equity$1,027,625
SCLZSwan Enhanced Dividend Income ETFSwan Global2/27/24Equity$2,497,055
MRCPPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 12 ETF - MarchPGIM3/1/24Equity$3,012,601
PBMRPGIM US Large-Cap Buffer 20 ETF - MarchPGIM3/1/24Equity$4,003,225
FLDBFidelity Low Duration Bond ETFFidelity2/26/24Fixed Income$5,018,000
NRESXtrackers RREEF Global Natural Resources ETFDWS2/27/24Equity$11,211,526
MAGXRoundhill Daily 2X Long Magnificent Seven ETFRoundhill2/29/24Equity$1,517,400
MAGQRoundhill Daily Inverse Magnificent Seven ETFRoundhill2/29/24Equity$247,821
GINXSGI Enhanced Global Income ETFSummit Global2/29/24Equity$29,632,548
USDXSGI Enhanced Core ETFSummit Global2/29/24Equity$21,931,875
ULTYYieldMax Ultra Option Income Strategy ETFYieldMax2/29/24Equity$30,030,000
CAAAFirst Trust Commercial Mortgage Opportunities ETFFirst Trust2/28/24Fixed Income$15,090,040
SCIOFirst Trust Structured Credit Income Opportunities ETFFirst Trust2/28/24Fixed Income$15,142,540
MVPLMiller Value Partners Leverage ETFMiller Value2/28/24Equity$4,578,120
MBSFRegan Floating Rate MBS ETFRegan Capital2/28/24Fixed Income$32,053,500
SIXPAllianzIM U.S. Large Cap 6 Month Buffer10 Mar/Sep ETFAllianz Investment Management3/1/24Equity$20,728,290
IMARInnovator International Developed Power Buffer ETF MarchInnovator3/1/24Equity$21,679,250
QDTERoundhill N-100 0DTE Covered Call Strategy ETFRoundhill3/7/24Equity$6,313,986
XDTE
Roundhill S&P 500 0DTE Covered Call Strategy ETF
Roundhill3/7/24Equity$1,819,920
NUSBNuveen Ultra Short Income ETFNuveen3/6/24Fixed Income$15,021,000
NSCRNuveen Sustainable Core ETFNuveen3/6/24Equity$5,066,880
NPFINuveen Preferred and Income ETFNuveen3/6/24Fixed Income$15,168,000
NCPBNuveen Core Plus Bond ETFNuveen3/6/24Fixed Income$29,904,000
SPYT
Defiance S&P 500 Target Income ETF
Defiance ETFs3/7/24Equity$2,498,750
DIVPCullen Enhanced Equity Income ETFCullen Capital3/7/24Equity$1,883,704
IOPPSimplify Tara India Opportunities ETFSimplify3/5/24Equity$3,019,287
PCIGPolen Capital International Growth ETFLitman Gregory3/15/24Equity$498,269
PCCEPolen Capital China Growth ETFLitman Gregory3/15/24Equity$495,253
TAXXBondBloxx IR+M Tax-Aware Short Duration ETFBondBloxx3/14/24Fixed Income$5,005,000
Total - 46 New ETFs
 
Total$575,786,817

Source: Factset as of 3/15/2024

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